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  A Picture of the Universe at 300,000 Years Old

  by D wiltshire in

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  for those who are interested here is a picture of the universe at around 300,000 years old.. this is concidered the discovery of the century (1992).. http://www.lbl.gov/lbl-pid/george-smoot.html.

  there is of coarse much written about this discovery "wrinkles in time" by george smoot himself is a very good book on the subject.

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  Drw,

  I think your right.
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  Many Christians Preachers at war with Natural Science

  by D wiltshire in

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  2. friends

  i consider myself a christian and i think christian preachers who spout off against evolution and claim they are doing it to stay loyal to gods word.

  are doing a disservice to the, christian witness to a scientifically knowledgeable generation.

  christians should be knowledgeable about this subject before they openly call persons who have scholarship in these subjects, as incorrect.

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  Some preachers have not the time to research the subject of evolution they are too busy with giving talks to do much research so they rely on persons who also don't have time to reseach properly and probably don't really want to because they are afraid what they may find.
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  Witnessing to JWs at a magazine stand in the mall

  by D wiltshire in

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  2. friends

  i think a big mistake that some make in trying to get a jw to see they are not in the one and only true religion is to argue about bible doctrine.as soon as you use the any scriptures they see it through wt interpretation filter, only the most open-minded will be able to entertain an interprtaton contrary to wt, and with 5 meetings of indoctrination a week very few are that open.. another approach may be perhaps better, it will not have very quick results, but it could put a crack in the thick shell the wt has formed around them.. here the approach i used at the mall when witnessing to the jws (two women) at their magazine stand.. as i was looking at the books i mentioned that my son-in-law was a jw (would not tell them that i used to be one).

  and also that they are nice people but there is one thing i dont agree with and that is that they think they are the only ones that are going to be saved and that all the other people that believe in christ are doomed for destruction.. of coarse they have their clever answers that are designed to deflect such objections such as "only god can read hearts" and the like, if you press them some more, which i did, they will answer to the effect that yes they believe they do have the only true religion, which they did, and then went to explain why they felt that way.. .

  i then proceeded to give an example, of a family who believed in jesus christ and had a genuine faith that moved them to help the poor, be good parents, work hard, live good moral upright lives, basically follow the bible, and i then asked them.

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  Stay away from Bible Doctrine in discussions with Jehovah's Witnesses. Use the logic of the cross, first, and show how genuine faith brings God's blessing reguardless of religious affiliation.
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  A Picture of the Universe at 300,000 Years Old

  by D wiltshire in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .

  for those who are interested here is a picture of the universe at around 300,000 years old.. this is concidered the discovery of the century (1992).. http://www.lbl.gov/lbl-pid/george-smoot.html.

  there is of coarse much written about this discovery "wrinkles in time" by george smoot himself is a very good book on the subject.

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  Balistic,

  I understand that the further you look into space, the further back in time you are looking. What I fail to understand is that this is a picture of our own milky way galaxy which we are currently in (look I'm waving). So how can we look back in time at ourselves?

  The milkway is just in the way of our veiw. We are in the MW galaxy so it is impossible at the present to get this picture without some interference from our own galaxy.
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  True Bible Doctrines Part 3

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the omnipresence and multi-personal nature of yhwh

  note: the kjv uses lord (all capitals) for the hebrew yhwh.

  yhwh on earth rained brimstone and fire from yhwh in heaven.

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  Hoober,

  I don't look at the Bible as a book of doctrine doctrine. I don't think God gave us this book for rules and creeds.

  Instead I look to the Bible as a never ending study of the richly deversified wisom of God. One needs to know anceint history of the people, and thier culture at the time a certain portion was written, as well as the style of writting that was in common use back then to grasp it.

  I think many who in their hurry to formulate doctrine, overlook these important facts.
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  Does God exist outside of Time?

  by D wiltshire in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does god exist out side of our dimension of time?.

  our view of time has changed over the centuries.

  for the longest time,.

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  Thinker,

  That point may have some merit, but I tend to favor a loving creator, who even came into the universe atleast once in fully human form, to say in the most tangable way, "I love you" to us by experiencing death of torture for our sins. This is my beleif, I don't have absolute conclusive proof for this beleif, but am willing to exercise faith that this is true. I think "love" is something that transcends dimenssions, and knowledge.
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  A Picture of the Universe at 300,000 Years Old

  by D wiltshire in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .

  for those who are interested here is a picture of the universe at around 300,000 years old.. this is concidered the discovery of the century (1992).. http://www.lbl.gov/lbl-pid/george-smoot.html.

  there is of coarse much written about this discovery "wrinkles in time" by george smoot himself is a very good book on the subject.

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  bttt
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  Many Christians Preachers at war with Natural Science

  by D wiltshire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i consider myself a christian and i think christian preachers who spout off against evolution and claim they are doing it to stay loyal to gods word.

  are doing a disservice to the, christian witness to a scientifically knowledgeable generation.

  christians should be knowledgeable about this subject before they openly call persons who have scholarship in these subjects, as incorrect.

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  I consider myself a Christian and I think Christian preachers who spout off against evolution and claim they are doing it to stay loyal to God’s Word. Are doing a disservice to the, Christian witness to a scientifically knowledgeable generation. Christians should be knowledgeable about this subject before they openly call persons who have scholarship in these subjects, as incorrect.

  God made man curious, and gave him the ability to take care of the earth; science is an out growth of the gift of understanding that was given to him, by God, to take care of this earth.

  The Christian faith in not dependent of ignorance. The history of Christianity shows that a few have been able to think outside the box (Galileo, Newton, Copernicus, Kepler and others) Many intelligent person have been persecuted by the Church because they didn’t fall in line with the current interpretation of the Bible. Which they latter changed to fit the undeniable things that were comming to light.

  Christians should be leading the way to find out about God’s handiwork the universe instead of spouting off ridicule at Scholars that know far more about which they worked very hard to learn about. For someone who knows far less about a subject to call into question a scholar research, is not convincing, on the other hand scholars on his subject can do so with more information than a novice can.
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  Does God exist outside of Time?

  by D wiltshire in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does god exist out side of our dimension of time?.

  our view of time has changed over the centuries.

  for the longest time,.

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  Thinker,

  Those are interesting questions about God, but have you considered quantum theory's effect on you personally? Take a look at the role of the observer in collapsing quantum probabilities into what we then sense as the 'reality' of matter and the flow of time. In a very real sense we are the instigator of the cause when we observe the effect.

  Spooky isn't it! I think Albert E. theories and Quantum physics has turned the world upside down, and has raise more questions than it has answered. Maybe it is just a very clever hologram we experience consciousness in.

  Science tells us that everything is basically nothing, I think God is a clever manipulator of "Nothing" to make what appears to be "something" it really is not. That's my idea of what quantum physics is going to eventually tell us, as a lay-person

  1) Does your consciousness even need time or space to exist?

  I would say no. I strongly feel that consciousness is not just electro-chemical, but may be on a sub-atomic level as well, or perhaps the consciousness we experience is beyond space and completely "non-local" but attached to your body somehow.

  2) Does consciousness without your physical body look at time the same way we do with your physical senses?

  No physical body, would probably mean "no" contact with SpaceTime.

  3) Does consciousness view past, present, and future as all the same?

  Without the present body I would say yes, but that is conditional. Of coarse I have the right to be wrong on such highly speculative questions.

  Maybe these are the questions you should be asking. If your consciousness is limited by the senses of your physical body and is quietly working both in you and at the same time is existing outside of space and time, would this help to explain things like: deja' vu, precognition, past lives, NDEs, etc...?

  This could be one of many plausible conclusions.
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  Novel about Revenge by a Genius Destroying the WT

  by D wiltshire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the theme is about this super-genius, who joins the jws to utterly shame and destroy the wt.. he has the ability to work his way into the very personal lives of all the gb (uses money to befriend them) and set them up for a very humiliating fall from the power they have over peoples lives.

  while he has mercy on the reformable he has nothing but contempt for the hideous hypocrites who use their lies ruin peoples lives.. he uses his genius to appear as a loyal brother helping the wt (like bro.

  crk or mghty atprts).

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  Sheila,

  I'm not familiar with Thunder, I have only very limited time to use for internet, could you expalin with more detail?